Vemma Scam? Why I Quit Vemma. DON’T JOIN!

Can you really make money with this Vemma or Verve thing…or is this a Vemma Scam?

Are you looking to find the honest truth behind the Vemma Scam and wondering if the Vemma money making opportunity is real?

Keep reading to find out the truth behind the Vemma Scam and why I quit as a Vemma brand partner.

Vemma Scam – Is Vemma A Scam?

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Everybody hates to be scammed and hearing a Vemma Scam is enough to drive someone mad and bang their head against the wall. Are you saying to yoursef, not another Internet scam or another one of those MLM pyramid scheme things.

Whenever we find about something new for the first time, it is but normal to be skeptical about it and think its a scam or not real. When you hear about people making mad money or earning a free BMW or Mercedes Benz from the company. This is why some people call Vemma a Vemma scam.

The reason for that is some people try becoming a brand partner for Vemma and end up not reaching the success they had hoped for after a few weeks or months and quit the business opportunity because they didn’t find immediate success. Therefore it starts to get called a scam.

Vemma is not a scam… It is simply a vehicle to help you and others to get healthy, lose weight, and make some extra money or even become financially debt free in the future.

Vemma Scam – Is There Any Credibility?

Another reason why the Vemma Scam is not true is because of the amazing credibility, sponsorships, and endorsements the company has. Vemma is partnered with Dr. Oz from The Dr. Oz Show, and his company called HealthCorps. Vemma and its product line of energy drink supplements called Verve, is sponsored and advertised as the official energy drink of the Phoenix Suns, the Phoenix Coyotes, and Michael Jordan’s team, the Charlotte Bobcats.

The Verve Energy Drink is also the official sponsor of professional NASCAR driver Mike Wallace. Lastly, the most recent recognition of credibility comes from the worlds most popular TV Weight Loss Transformation Specialist, Chris Powell, from ABC’s hit TV Show, Extreme Makeover: Weight Loss Edition. Together they have endorsed the Vemma Chris Powell 12 Week Bode Challenge.

Vemma Scam – Why I Quit Vemma

So why did I quit Vemma? Watch and listen to the video below carefully as I explain to you exactly why I decided to quit as a Vemma brand partner. There is information that the Vemma leaders and people at the event you attended or were invited too did not tell you about the company….

WARNING!!!!  

DON’T FALL FOR THE HYPE like I did! Watch the video below….

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Vemma Scam – #1 Problem That Faces Vemma Brand Partners

When I first got started I struggled like the 97% that don’t see success with their business. Even though I loved Vemma’s products and the company, I went through many struggles and defeats during that time period. And let’s face it, I ultimately joined because wanted to make a supplemental income.

The bad news is that statistics indicate that 97% of people ( YOU and I ) will make no money in network marketing or that we will just make enough to pay for our auto delivery shipment each month. Thats VERY LOW statistic and I fell into that category myself and it sucked.

The #1 problem why you will struggle and why I struggled is because I did not have a lead generation system in place and didn’t have efficient marketing strategies in place. Without a true marketing strategy and the inability to generate 10-20+ leads every day for your business, will ultimately lead to struggle and failure.

Vemma Scam – Are You Ready To Live Your Dream Lifestyle?

If you are sick and tired of living paycheck to paycheck. If you want to RETIRE young (in your 20’s) and honestly want to live the dream lifestyle that you both want and deserve?

Than you have nothing to lose when you join our team. You will be teaming up with the BEST trainers and mentor’s in the network marketing industry today, PERIOD. All of which who are making 6 Figures A Year!!!

Our team members receive incredible network marketing training to build their business both online and offline so you can start growing your business on the fast track. (Over $2,000 in value) To help you build your business, generate endless leads, earn money fast, earn your BMW, and start taking some DREAM vacations!

 

Please leave your questions or comments below on this Vemma Scam article. Don’t let fear or doubt stop you from a choice that will dramatically effect your life forever. This is a REAL Opportunity, Real Lifestyle & a NO BRAINER Decision to change your future! I look forward to connecting with you and helping you create an abundant lifestyle for you and your family!

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hhardarson10
hhardarson10

And let me add. With all respect Nathan, you are entrepreneur yourself and post these videos and text about why not to join Vemma, but in the bottom you have a link to join your business idea. That is just a way to market your own business. "Do not join Vemma, but join this instead". Not a credible source to base your opionon on weither to join Vemma or not. Look up some real facts instead everyone.

hhardarson10
hhardarson10

I respect what your article. You do claim that it is not for everyone, which is real fair. Working in a cubicle or minumum wage is not for everyone either. And reading these comments makes me wonder. Both people that are for it and against it. Vemma is not some sort of cult, or trying to make you join this evil empire. Before  I joined, I was bugged by several people to join, but look at it this way. When you have a car salesman calling you to buy a car, are you gonna call his Company a scam. "No" you are not, when in reality he is persuating you to buy his product but when someone from Vemma wants to share a great opportunity, you are gonna be that ignorant and say it is a scam. I think that Is a joke. Please explain what makes this a scam. I am in Vemma and have aquired great success with it, and the reason is because I am putting effort in to it and constantly developing my business and personally working with Brad Alkazin and Alex Morton. For you guys that tell me to get a real job or get a scholarship and make my money that way,. I would rather work for myself and be surrounded with people I can influence. People who tell me that they would rather get a real job, good luck to be honest. 16 percent out of all people out of College get a job, so call this business a scam but look where you a headed.


For you guys reading this and have an open mind, please feel free to contact me.....

hhardarson10@gmail.com

DuachongMaiyaVue
DuachongMaiyaVue

I have joined vemma and i am half there and i am going crazy because i spent so much money and will spend more money and i don't have enough money!!!!! i don't know what to do? i can't cancel it? can i? it is so hard now and day to find a legit site that will help you get where you want to instead and not have to pay for many things and at least just pay for one thing than get started, but most of them give you false dreams or so and make you pay for more things without knowing it...I have read so many reviews about vemma and it is all bad. it is making me having doubts...

runnergirl175
runnergirl175

Vemma does not make you money. You pay them more than you make.Have to have an auto order every month to get paid anything. No support from sponser or company

JeremyPhillips
JeremyPhillips

dont be talking to me like that yu dont know me!!!

jackKings
jackKings

lol. always great to see people doing different things in lie but just because it wasn't for you i don't think you should be going on and saying how its a scam or not at the end of the day it was your fault not putting in the work that got you there and got you no results because you wasn't willing to put in the effort. You can't have a professional income with an amateur mind set.

JeremyPhillips
JeremyPhillips

you guys are wrong vemma is not a scam you just couldnt take the time to prospect or you just didnt have a big enough y and i hate people like you that are tearing other peoples business company down

RyanTaylor1
RyanTaylor1

aka... you sucked at selling and your blaming Vemma

CobraThomas
CobraThomas

So Nate what are you selling ?? Is it a product that works for Sick folks ? Are you taking the Product as you did with V E M M A ?? VEMMA want's 60 Bucks a Month what is your Products Value. This reminds me of AMWAY lol. THE VEMMA is only Evacuating me and I ain't digging it !! I can get these same Energy Drinks at the 99 cent Store …. OH and they're 16 to 20 oz not 8. Ya I'm not jumping up and down for VEMMA or any other Product that Folks are SCREAMING for me to buy !! Nate does your product work ???

leandro51torres
leandro51torres

i have issue at school where a student i  know has been harassed me to join the business because i going away to college he see an chance to used me but he used his network to annoy me do you have any ideas what to do 

typexzeroshift
typexzeroshift

HELP! I'm currently being enticed in this whole thing. From what I've read/heard, Vemma is a legitimate company and I think that's how some (usually their supporters) say it's not a scam. This guy (well 3 of them actually) started talking to me about it and it only took 2 min. for my thought process to output, Pyramid Scheme, in my head; well MLM to be precise. They showed me some photos on their Facebook pages and even some videos; like this 1 guy got a BMW in just 2 weeks. I'm like, "Is this for real? Do they really pay you by just spreading it around and when you hit a certain quota, they award you with a car?" I'm still skeptical about the whole thing. They told me the reason why you don't see Vemma products on retail but I still question why they only target young people to join their team. One of the people in their team (one I personally don't know) even showed me his paycheck that says: $678 on it with a Vemma label on it that's worth less than 2 weeks. "Wtf...", was my response. Of course, I didn't show any form of excitement, I just kept a rather unfazed composure. Can you talk to me about this? Please? Thank you...

ChrisBurnett
ChrisBurnett

Honestly, it's all about your team. I have been in vemma as a brand partner for 2 weeks now and I have seen success. All you need to do is get a good team who is willing to support you and have good credibility behind you. My team hosts home meetings every night, just so were all training and were inviting people to join our team as well. I'm not gonna get mad if people call me a scammer or whatever because it's performance based. If you gave them $500 and you didn't do shit of course your gonna fail. As a technician at an airport, I understand the importance of synergy and teamwork. There is no vemma without a team. If you are just starting vemma or have any questions please feel free to contact me. I will to the best to answer questions.

koreyniese
koreyniese

Hey Nathan, I stumbled across your blog and just wanted to say you have a hell of a blog here brother!  Very well put together.  Nice job man, keep up the great work brotha.

TimoRoe
TimoRoe

Get your numbers straight!! How could you only make 100 or 200 dollars with a network of 60 people?! Momentum is 200, plus cycles (at least 5 if you didn't balance your team COMPLETELY wrong), which is already more than 300 dollars. Plus the people you enrolled personally (not even including the frenzy bonus, because I admit it takes skill and perfect timing to achieve this one) , you will end up with 400 or more. And you said one needs a little over a hundred people to make 600 dollars?? That's just false man, sorry! you should be close to Diamond at that point, which means you make at least 400 Dollars through cycles and 400 with Momentum/car Bonus. PLUS the people you sign yourself, PLUS rank advancement boni, which at that point add up to 750 dollars (one time payment though)... I agree with you on most of the points you tried to make, for example that the average person will not get successfull. As you said though, that's due to the fact that the "average person" is not willing to take the action it takes to become successfull. It took me less than 2 months to be a diamond leader, and I am very much average!! I would never call myself successfull, that would be ridiculous, but I got a pretty good feeling of how much it takes to be successfull in this business... and in my opinion it's A FREAKING JOKE. if you took the energy most people spend on their job and put it in Vemma or network marketing in general.... chances are A LOT of people would make twice the money they are making in their jobs...

mgordon
mgordon

I am interested learning a lot about this. I am very skeptical, however I am also open minded as well, but I also wanna be financially secure and not lose money while doing this. I just went to an information session with some top people who make 6 figures but it still wasn't convincing enough. The team sounds like top-notch hard workers who do make money and I want to know that I will be able to do that and not fail.

checkthedox
checkthedox

None of these claims are substantiated. They have NONE of these endorsements. Vemma fits the 3 qualifications needed to be considered a pyramid scheme. Where is all this income coming from? I'll tell you - from the ridiculously overpriced cases of this crap drink they make all these "Brand partners" buy. NOT actual sales. Where is the customer base? Or is all the income generated by these "brand partners"? I think we know the answer. I had someone I know approach me with this and it was the most ridiculous thing ever. I actually felt bad for him that he wasted money. He barely knew me, we had talked like twice in high school, but he was so desperate to make his money back on those drinks that he contacted me of all people. Pure desperation. First warning sign. He was adamant on selling me on these drinks. I had to hold back a laugh when he told me that a case of this shit is 160 bucks. If this was a legit company, why wouldn't they just put their product in stores? Because they'd rather prey on college and high school students who are less likely to call this out as a pyramid scheme, and they're making more money off selling these cases at ridiculously inflated prices. YOU SHOULD NEVER HAVE TO PAY ANY JOB ANY MONEY. THAT IS A HUGE WARNING SIGN. Jobs are about MAKING money not giving it away. I know this sounds tempting for many but stay away from this company.

pokesmot77
pokesmot77

This seriously makes me giggle. You'll see.. watch. then you're going to wish you never the company and wish you weren't so closed-minded

pokesmot77
pokesmot77

I think its funny how you talk about Vemma yet, you then turn over to your company.. 1) The only way you see profit in Vemma is by how hard YOU work. YOU work hard, you get sign ups you'll see it in your pay check. But I like how you said "the average person wont make it in this company" you are 100% right! AVERAGE .. stop being average then. if you know people that are doing good and making great money , then why would you stop? Because you didn't work hard enough. That's it. Your work ethic will show up in your pay check. 

Might want to check this out tho .. Mr. Average

http://youtu.be/ecmq3X9rKWo

rjsmith6894
rjsmith6894

"Amateur mind set" says the guy that used poor spelling and grammar. You should probably be paying better attention in school and earn scholarships. That'll fix your ignorance, and keep you that much less in debt, so you don't even need to worry about selling these drinks. Don't get me wrong, I believe people can make money off selling this product, they don't taste that bad, and I drink them (a friend of mine quit selling the and gave me a few cases free, or else I wouldn't have tried them), but It's just like selling Avon or Mary Kay-- not everyone is going to get rich like they have examples of. It isn't guaranteed success. And even then success could be minor profit to major profit. It's one of those things that isn't for everyone. If you can make a living off these then hell yeah, go for it!!! But they aren't going to sell themselves, and it surely isn't everyone's niche to sell things.

Joost94
Joost94

Read your shit better!!! He is not calling it a scam he just called it hard to make money with and that different...

Joost94
Joost94

He might blame Vemma for making it hard to make money and not being as easy as they tell you it will be.

Guys just get a reall job and make the money that way.

You can't honestly sell this opportunity to your friends and people around you while not feeling like you are selling them shit and just more problems.

ChrisBurnett
ChrisBurnett

These products are superior to the monster, amp, or redbull you would find in a convince store. That is why they're a little more pricey. And there are testimonials and clinical studies behind these products proven to be healthy for your body. Yeah, everybody is different so it has a different effect on different people. Again if you have any questions please feel free to contact me and I will give you a straight forward answer. I don't bead around the bush. My email is chrisburnett.vemma@gmail.com.

Camilab1
Camilab1

That's a problem with that person specifically. It's not what the company enforces. So if anything, it is the kid's fault, not the company. Not that I'm saying that you will blame the company as harrasing you, but it's almost human nature to generalize. So it's the kid's fault, not the company's.

Joost94
Joost94

Contact Vemma personally and tell the names and people and how and why they are pushing and forcing you to join.

Those people see that they are not making millions as they where promised and well now they are getting desperate.

Very good of you to say this out loud

Joost94
Joost94

This happened to be just the same. And dear friend do you know how they get that check and how they get that car by getting a lot of people like you to believe that you can have what they have. They won't have it if it was not up to you for buying those products. They don't want to sell this to you for your benefit they want to make money of of you and with a 2% on it well that shows how much you will need to sell and manipulate people to get under you.

For you to make your money you will need to find people to pay 600 to a grand to start that opportunity and you will have to sell that opportunity to them for you to make yor money back and make more.

Now think again they are selling you the stuff so that they can get payed not you...

Nathan Argenta
Nathan Argenta moderator

@koreyniese  Hey Korey, thanks for the comment. I saw your following me on Twitter. I am following back and checked out your blog as well. Love how we have the same thought's/mindset on attraction marketing for network marketers!

Joost94
Joost94

I make 120 dollars a day and it's a easy job with nice contact and it's steady don't have to molest people with this opportunity or make people spend money they don't have. Honestly look at your self and know you are not making close enough to what you should get for the stress and shit Vemma puts you in

Nathan Argenta
Nathan Argenta moderator

@TimoRoe  12 people in my new business is $600/month residual income. 112 people is $2,500/month residual income, PLUS $250/month vacation bonus. Like it or not this is working for me and MORE people are having success, for some, the first time ever in this industry. It's not about the money I make, but knowing I am helping my team to rank advance faster and make money makes it more rewarding to me.

runnergirl175
runnergirl175

@mgordon You can not make make money with Vemma. It will cost you. What  they do not tell you is that you have to have an auto shipment every month to get paid 

anything. There are just a very few people making any money. I spent over $2000

and only got $10.00 back. I did work hard but got no support from the company or

sponser. Companies like  Mary Kay have meetings in their area for their people.

Vemma also tells you you cannot sell on e-bay or Amazon but people do and the

company does nothing about it                                                                                                          

Camilab1
Camilab1

Ridiculously high prices? Let me ask you a question. Do you know what costco or BJ's is? They sell food. They also sell in bundles. A 32 pack of redbull for $48. So does the price seem high? Absolutely. But if you break it down it costs less to but the bundle. So if you had thought out your answer better then you would know that a case of verve is a very reasonable price. And with $160 you don't get one case. Either he said it wrong to you or you blocked your hearing and put your biased belief in your head. But that is not true. First of all, if you had any idea how network marketing worked, then you would understand why the majority of stores don't sell vemma. But clearly you haven't done your research yet. Redbull spends millions of dollars on advertizing and marketing every year. And they sell retail (which is more expensive than wholesale if you didn't know). MLM companies chose to use the same millions of dollars into network advertizing, hence "network" marketing. So the money is just used and distributed differently. And Vemma IS starting to sell retail. Maybe not where you live but where I live there are convenience stores and gas stations with verve cans next to redbull and monster. The difference is that retail costs more per individual can than per case. But even so, the price for monster or rockstar is basically the same. If it's a few cents more exensive, that is still a reasonable price because of the disparity in nutrition density. Most people fail in MLM because they give up or they give in to friends and family members "claiming" that it's a scam. But what do they know? Absolutely nothing. Unsuccessful people listen to other unsuccessful people. What do they all say? That MLM is a scam. Why? Because they heard it from other unsuccessful people. Do you know where I'm getting with this? But if people did their research and listened to the people who have created success, then they woyld know the difference. Another reason why people say that MLM is a scam is because they tried it for a few weeks and becsuse they had no skills, they quit. Did they try to gain skills before quitting? Probably not. So they failed because they put no effort in. What do people do when things don't go how they want? They blame other people. It's almost human nature to place responsibility on others. We don't like to blame ourselves. So a high percentage of people who call vemma or MLM a scam are people who put no effort into learning skills or learning about the industry. So they took off their responsibility and placed it on their uplines and the company. So if you think it's a pyramid scheme, then you probably heard it from an unsuccessful person who heard it from another unsuccessful person, or you heard it from a person who failed and put the blame on the industry. Or maybe you heard it from someone who WAS in a pyramid scheme. But there is a fine line between legal and illegal. The system is somewhat similar but the difference is there. There are prons and cons with the industry, just like there are with traditional businesses, but it doesn't make it a scam.

carp_5
carp_5

First off, what I meant was that these people back the product, and know that it works, which is why they support it, I should have chose my words more carefully. Its not an official "endorsement", but by their actions, they support the product. Secondly, pyramid schemes are illegal, Vemma would be shut down if that were the case. Thirdly, its MLM, which is one of the highest paid professions in the world, topping most that require a degree. Fourthly, its not ridiculously over priced. And its just under 160 for two cases by the way, not one. Its more expensive than red bull and monster yes. But for the vitamins and minerals that are in ity it is actually very under priced. Monsters and red bulls are bad for you, which is basically charging you 2 dollars a can (roughly) for a bunch of harmful stuff. I could fill I can with harmful stuff very easily and for a very low cost any day. But to fill a can with healthy stuff costs a lot more, consequently driving the price up some. Its basic economics. They don't put it in stores because it is a lot more effective to advertise by word of mouth. If someone comes to you physically and offers you a free drink, you are a lot more likely to try it than paying for it in a store when you know nothing about it. This way the person can educate you on theproduct and tell you what iit'd about. Also, in MLM, there are up front fees. That's just how it is. I want to know one successful business in the world that started out by not paying any up front money. Its not a job, jobs don't require up front money. Jobs are for average people. Businesses however, aren't average. They are for an elite people, and require up front money, or else everyone would have their own business. If you not willing to invest some money to make money, that's fine. But font put down on the elite group of people who are. I can't stand when ignorant people think they are an expert on something that they know absolutely nothing about. Good luck with you normal "job" but I have to go make money with my business now.

Getreal33
Getreal33

People a pyramid scheme has no product!!! It just shuffles money... Look it up!!! This is not a pyramid scheme educate yourselves Herbalife has been around for 20 something years same concept! Red bull chooses to market through celebrities commercials Verve uses people! I do not sell it.... But get tired of ignorant statements! A pyramid scheme is an unsustainable business model that involves promising participants payment or services, primarily for enrolling other people into the scheme, rather than supplying any real investment or sale of products or services to the public.[1][2]

Camilab1
Camilab1

Maybe you dealt with people who were just trying to make money off you, but it is not about taking money. For them maybe, but that just sucks for you. There are some leaders that just want to make money off everyone, but the majority want their team to grow with them also. There are downlines that make A LOT more money than their uplines. But it's normal for people to blame the company or their uplines for their lack of success. People do that in almost every situation out there.

ChrisBurnett
ChrisBurnett

Sorry suki9405 for the delay, my email is chrisburnett.vemma@gmail.com

tiffy679
tiffy679

@Nathan Argenta @TimoRoe$600 a month? That is pretty low income, $7,200 a year is below poverty. I made the same working part-time in a basic retail job, 3-4 days a week. $2,500 is not good either - $30,000 a year - considering that you'd start out after college making double that amount with a business degree. Since you are 'owning your own business' as well, you need to subtract your costs to sell your product from your revenues to get your actual income. This number would make the income much smaller than what is really being made.

Joost94
Joost94

Very very sad to how badly you are abdicated on this subject. My father has his own business I have my own business and yes you do have to have money to invest but that money to don't pay to someone's other company every time every months. Who has a company where there are 100 to 1.000.000 others alike from. I mean that would not be a real good business and I'm not even going to explain why you are wrong because I want to you see it for your self. But this one thing you are really wrong about and that the health in this energy drink. In my country holland red bull and monster is being sold however one 2 types of energy out of the 7 of Vemma are allowed to enter the country because the others where tested and rejected on health harms and anabolic growth products. How do I know this well because my sister tested the products and honestly told me you can better drink 1l of red bull what she does not like either or agrees on being healthy but still wants me to drink more then any of these brands of Vemma .... Say enough ?

TamarahCharter
TamarahCharter

@carp_5 Lol I had to laugh when you said 'It's actually underpriced when you consider the vitamins and minerals in it'. You do realize that the cost of essential vitamins and minerals is virtually nothing, the supplements industry make billions because people don't realize the massive markup they are being charged. There is nothing to justify these drinks being more expensive than any other drinks, don't fall for the hype. And before you lecture me on economics I have an economics degree.

 Also, don't fall for the cult mentality of being told you are part of an 'elite group of people' just because you were willing to spend your money on a business idea that involves pushing someone else's product. Here's a piece of advice: Good products don't need to be pushed on people through direct marketing, they sell themselves. Personally I refuse to buy any product that is sold through direct marketing as I always take it as a sure sign that there's a better alternative available.

If you really did have what it takes to make this scam work (the ability to generate 100's of your own leads a month and close a decent percentage of them) you would be smart enough to just come up with your own product and scheme. Do you ever notice how many different MLM scheme there are? It's because the more intelligent people realize it's a rort that only makes the creator rich and then they start their own schemes. And don't try pull the 'It'd get shut down if it worked this way' crap, you obviously have no experience in the marketing industry or you'd realize this kind of unscrupulous stuff goes on all the time.

You probably won't believe me now but you will in a years time when you finally realize that less than 1% of people who enter into MLM scams make more than the minimum wage after factoring in their profit to the number of hours a week they invest. You would be better off serving people at McDonalds.

Anyway I better be off to my 'normal' job that actually pays the mortgage.

RonnieShenk
RonnieShenk

These people are frustrating. I started Vemma and made 260 my first week because i learned how to do this and kept an open mind. Oh and for the person who said about drugs....yes drugs are illegal but if you go up toa cop and waive a bag of cocaine in his face you'll get arrested. I pay taxes on the checks i get with Vemma. The government knows what we are doing. So since this is so illegal I'll be sure to send you all a letter from prison when i get arrested for showing a cop my Vemma check i just got in the mail. Close minded people make me bash my head against the wall...

annac918
annac918

@carp_5  You obviously been sipping the Vemma Kool Aid because those are the EXACT words touted by the company's reps. To address your "points" (more like 'mistakes')


1) Celebrity endorsements mean shit! You pay them $$$ you can have them say anything. Only teenagers believe that celebrity endorsement=actual approval. Yeah, because someone like Sarah Jessica Parker dyed her hair at home with a $6 box of Garnier Hair color. Or someone like Beyonce shop at H&M! (these are actual celeb endorsement deals!)

IN short: fuck Dr. Oz, nobody gives a shit he "endorse" Vemma. They donate $$$ to his charity, that's why he's do promo work for them.Also: Dr. Oz DID NOT "endorse" the product and he stated so in a message to your company. Check truthinadvertising.org 's expose on this. 


2) Pyramid schemes are indeed illegal. So does prostitution, and marijuana. And crack cocain. Yet people still do them. Vemma, and many other MLM schemes skirted this legal loophole by exploiting the fact that they "sell" products. Yes, they do sell products, but 80% or more of their "customers" are their own rep. That is NOT how a real business work! Imagine if Target makes all its money from selling products to its employees instead of actual customers! Vemma is a product-based pyramid-like scheme, which runs the fine line between legal and illegal, which is why legally, they cannot be shut down, but morally, it is wrong. Again, this said nothing about the fact that the business structure is highly immoral (after all, oil companies still raking in billion$, and consider "legal" businesses, yet they're highly immoral and should be run to the ground!) 


3) "Thirdly, its MLM, which is one of the highest paid professions in the world, topping most that require a degree."--where is your stat? Your company's internal memo and sale pitch doesn't count...you know that, right?  


4) Lots of stuffs are more overpriced than Vemma, but the point here is that energy drink is not a "necessity" or a "luxury" products. Which mean, people are not compelled to spend more than they need to on a product they NEVER heard about. Do u not understand how business work? Yes, ppl will shell out $1000 on a LV handbag, because it's consider "luxury", "status symbol", scare product.On the other hand, if gas goes up an extra 50cent tomorrow, most people would still shell out $$ for it, because it's consider a "necessity", or if suddenly all the toilet paper in the world goes up by $1 a roll, ppl would still buy it. Vemma falls in neither of these categories. So good luck trying to overcharge for something consumers don't really need/want. 


4) "Also, in MLM, there are up front fees. That's just how it is. I want to know one successful business in the world that started out by not paying any up front money." Again you're very confused. MLM may have upfront fee, but that DOESN'T mean that it's right. Walmart pays it associates minimum wage, that's "just how it is",but that DOES NOT make it right either. Do you see the similarity? Why? because people like you, who doesn't have money already, should NOT be paying money to make money. You're not an "entrepreneur" like they make you think you are. You're an "employee" stop fooling yourself. In a real business, you can adjust your inventory order: if you only sell 4 items this month, they for next month, you only buy 4, or 5 items for the store. Vemma does not allow you to do this. You are signed up for a "shipment" every month, regardless if you can actually sell them or not. The company doesn't care. They keep shipping you stuffs that you can't get rid of fast enough, you keep paying them money to do so. BAD IDEA. 


5) "Jobs are for average people. Businesses however, aren't average. They are for an elite people, and require up front money, or else everyone would have their own business."--what make you think you're "elite"? Because you attend a 90 minute presentation of some dude who talks about his Benz? That inspired you and suddenly now you're part of the "elite"? Real "elite" takes time and effort--you don't just "become" elite by signing up to be part of a group of other "elite". You weren't "handpicked" either because they see something in you. Stop fooling yourself that. 


6) Nothing's wrong with invest money, IF the business has a high chance of success....about 97% or more of your sale rep lose money and quit...THAT is a VERY risky investment. Much better chance in the stock market, my friend.  If you not willing to invest some money to make money, that's fine. But font put 

down on the elite group of people who are. 


7) "I can't stand when ignorant people think they are an expert on something that they know absolutely nothing about"--we may know "absolutely nothing about" but so DO YOU. you, know nothing either my friend. The only difference is that you wasted 90 minutes of your life sitting in a meeting with some rando from VEMMA where he masturbate your ego and you his when he shows u pics of his Benz. lmao

checkthedox
checkthedox

@TamarahCharter @carp_5 I have to give you an amen. I was going to respond to that lunacy but didn't have the energy. Couldn't have said it better myself. I'll go back to my own "normal" job as well that doesn't require me to make a fool out of myself

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